It's been a week since the last commits in the
el-get repository, and those
were all about fixing and adding recipes, and about notifications. Nothing
core plumbing you see. Also,
0.9 was released on
2010-08-24 and felt
pretty complete already, then received lots of improvements. It's high time
to cross the line and call it
Now existing users will certainly just be moderatly happy to see the tool
reach that version number, depending whether they think more about the bugs
they want to see fixed (ftp is supported, only called http) and the new
features they want to see in (
info documentation) or more about what
does for them already today...
For the new users, or the yet-to-be-convinced users, let's take some time
and talk about
FAQ like session might be best.
How is el-get different from ELPA?
ELPA is the
Emacs Lisp Package Archive and is also known as
be included in Emacs 24. This allows emacs list extension authors to
their work. That means they have to follow some guidelines and format their
contribution, then propose it for upload.
This requires licence checks (good) and for the new official ELPA mirror it even requires dead-tree papers exchange and contracts and copyright assignments, I believe.
Why have both?
While ELPA is a great thing to have, it's so easy to find some high quality Emacs extension out there that are not part of the offer. Either authors are not interrested into uploading to ELPA, or they don't know how to properly package for it (it's only simple for single file extensions, see).
el-get is a pragmatic answer here. It's there because it so happens that
I don't depend only on emacs extensions that are available with Emacs
itself, in my distribution
site-lisp and in
ELPA. I need some more, and I
don't need it to be complex to find it, fetch it, init it and use it.
Of course I could try and package any extension I find I need and submit it
ELPA, but really, to do that nicely I'd need to contact the extension
upstream) for him to accept my patch, and then consider a fork.
el-get I propose distributed packaging if you will. Let's have a look
recipes here. First, the
el-get one itself:
(:name el-get :type git :url "git://github.com/dimitri/el-get.git" :features el-get :compile "el-get.el")
Then a much more complex one, the bbdb one:
(:name bbdb :type git :url "git://github.com/barak/BBDB.git" :load-path ("./lisp" "./bits") :build ("./configure" "make autoloads" "make") :build/darwin ("./configure --with-emacs=/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs" "make autoloads" "make") :features bbdb :after (lambda () (bbdb-initialize)) :info "texinfo")
The idea is that it's much simpler to just come up with a recipe like this
than to patch existing code and upload it to
ELPA. And anybody can share
recipes very easily, with or without proposing them to me, even if I
very much like to add some more in the official
As a user, you don't even need to twiddle with recipes, mostly, because we
already have them for you. What you do instead is list them in
So, show me how you use it?
Yeah, sure. Here's a sample of my
dim-packages.el file, part of my
suite. Yeah a single
.emacs does not suit me anymore, it's a complete
.emacs.d now, but that's because that's how I like it organised, you
know. So, here's the example:
;;; dim-packages.el --- Dimitri Fontaine ;; ;; Set el-get-sources and call el-get to init all those packages we need. (require 'el-get) (add-to-list 'el-get-recipe-path "~/dev/emacs/el-get/recipes") (setq el-get-sources '(cssh el-get switch-window vkill google-maps yasnippet verbiste mailq sicp (:name magit :after (lambda () (global-set-key (kbd "C-x C-z") 'magit-status))) (:name asciidoc :type elpa :after (lambda () (autoload 'doc-mode "doc-mode" nil t) (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.adoc$" . doc-mode)) (add-hook 'doc-mode-hook '(lambda () (turn-on-auto-fill) (require 'asciidoc))))) (:name goto-last-change :after (lambda () (global-set-key (kbd "C-x C-/") 'goto-last-change))) (:name auto-dictionary :type elpa) (:name gist :type elpa) (:name lisppaste :type elpa))) (el-get) ; that could/should be (el-get 'sync) (provide 'dim-packages)
Ok that's not all of it, but it should give you a nice idea about what
problem I solve with
el-get and how. In my emacs startup sequence, somewhere
~/.emacs.d/init.el file, I have a line that says
'dim-packages). This will set
el-get-sources to the list just above, then
(el-get), the main function.
This main function will check each given package and install it if necessary
build the package, as in
make autoloads; make), then
init means exactly depends on what the recipe says. That can
byte-compiling some files, caring about
commands, caring about
ginstall-info too, and some
So in short, it will make it so that your emacs instance is ready for you to
use. And you get the choice to use the given
el-get recipes as-is, like I
switch-window and others, up to
sicp, or to tweak them
partly, like in the
magit example where I've added a user init function (the
:after property) to bind
C-x C-z here. You can even embed a
full recipe inline in the
el-get-sources variable, that's the case for each
item that gives its
:type property, like
And, as you see, we're using
ELPA a lot in this sources, so
striving to replace it at all, it's just trying to accomodate to a broader
I read that the el-get-install is asynchronous, tell me more.
Yeah, right, the example above says
(el-get) at its end, and in the cases
el-get has to install or build sources, this will be done
asynchronously. Which means that not only several sources will get processed
at once (using your multi cores, yeah) but that it will let emacs start up
as if it was ready.
It happens that's usually what I want, because I seldom add sources in my
setup, but in theory that can break your emacs. What I do is start it again
or fix by hand, what you can do instead is
(el-get 'sync) so that emacs is
blocked waiting for
el-get to properly install and initialize all the
sources you've setup. Your choice, just add the
'sync parameter there.
Now, explain me why it is better this way, again, please?
Well, before I wrote
el-get, trying out a new extension, setting it up etc
was something quite involved, and that I had to redo on several
machines. The only way not to redo it was to include the extension's code
into my own
git repository (my
emacs.d is in
git, of course).
And putting code I don't maintain into my own
git repository is something I
frown upon. I have no business pretending I'll maintain the code, and I know
I will never think to check the
URL where I've found it for updates. That's
when I though noting down the
Also, what about sharing the extension with friends. Uneasy, at best.
el-get and I can just add an entry to
el-get-sources, based on a file
somewhere in my own
el-get-recipe-path. When I'm happy with this file, I can
contribute it to
el-get proper or just send it over to any interested
recipient. Adding it to your sources is easy. Copy the file in your
el-get-recipe-path somewhere, add its name to your
el-get-install it. Done. If you were given the
:after function, it's all
If you contribute the recipe to
M-x el-get-update RET el-get
RET and you get it on this other machine where you also use Emacs. Or you
can tell your friend to do the same and benefit from your
Well, sounds good. What recipes do you have already?
67 of them already. One of them is just a book in
info format, with
elisp at all, can you spot it?
ELISP> (directory-files "~/dev/emacs/el-get/recipes/" nil "el$") ("auctex.el" "auto-complete-etags.el" "auto-complete-extension.el" "auto-complete.el" "auto-install.el" "autopair.el" "bbdb.el" "blender-python-mode.el" "color-theme-twilight.el" "color-theme.el" "cssh.el" "django-mode.el" "el-get.el" "emacs-w3m.el" "emacschrome.el" "emms.el" "ensime.el" "erc-highlight-nicknames.el" "erc-track-score.el" "escreen.el" "filladapt.el" "flyguess.el" "gist.el" "google-maps.el" "google-weather.el" "goto-last-change.el" "haskell-mode.el" "highlight-parentheses.el" "hl-sexp.el" "levenshtein.el" "magit.el" "mailq.el" "maxframe.el" "multi-term.el" "muse-blog.el" "nognus.el" "nterm.el" "nxhtml.el" "offlineimap.el" "package.el" "popup-kill-ring.el" "pos-tip.el" "pov-mode.el" "psvn.el" "pymacs.el" "rainbow-mode.el" "rcirc-groups.el" "rinari.el" "ropemacs.el" "rt-liberation.el" "scratch.el" "session.el" "sicp.el" "smex.el" "switch-window.el" "textile-mode.el" "todochiku.el" "twitter.el" "twittering-mode.el" "undo-tree.el" "verbiste.el" "vimpulse-surround.el" "vimpulse.el" "vkill.el" "xcscope.el" "xml-rpc-el.el" "yasnippet.el")
Ok, I want to try it, what's next?
Visit the following
http://github.com/dimitri/el-get and follow the
install instructions. You're given a
scratch installer there, that's some
elisp code you copy paste into
*scratch* then execute there, and you have
el-get ready to serve.
An excellent idea I stole at
Hey, I already know what el-get is, what's new in 1.0?
The changelog is quite full of good stuff, really:
- Implement el-get recipes so that el-get-sources can be a simple list
of symbols. Now that there's an authoritative git repository, where to share the recipes is easy.
- Add support for emacswiki directly, save from having to enter the URL
- Implement package status on-disk saving so that installing over a
previously failed install is in theory possible. Currently `el-get' will refrain from removing your package automatically, though.
- Fix ELPA remove method, adding a "removed" state too.
- Implement CVS login support.
- Add lots of recipes
- Add support for `system-type' specific build commands
- Byte compile files from the load-path entries or :compile files
- Implement support for git submodules with the command
`git submodule update --init --recursive`
- Add catch-all post-install and post-update hooks
- Add desktop notification on install/update.
I'm still using the deprecated emacswiki version, what now?
That version didn't have recipes, and the new version should be perfectly
happy with your current
el-get-sources, so that I recommend using the
scratch installer too. Don't forget to add
el-get itself into your
el-get-sources list, of course!